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December 11th
12:46 AM

loveoflopt:

Nooo, his giving birth was punishment for it (according to this person). Whcih I think is even freaking weirder. Is the person trying to suggest that cis straight women are being punished with childbirth as well? O_o

(Although some argue that he was punished for pointing out the problems of the Aesir in Lokasenna)

ohh I see. yeah, that idea is fucked up and full of misogyny and cissexism. ugh.

but to tie this in with misogyny in other major influential religions, recall that painful labor and childbirth is said to be all women’s punishment for Eve taking the fruit of knowledge, so there’s a precedent for the concept of childbirth-as-punishment in religious beliefs (it’s still fucked up and misogynist at the heart of it). but people bringing that into heathenism feels like someone is trying to push their UPG on everyone else. guh.

  1. witchyways reblogged this from loveoflopt
  2. environmint reblogged this from lindentea
  3. mellanvarld said: I have a hard time imagining why this would be a punishment; I never got the impression that Loki was bothered by it.
  4. haloquin reblogged this from loveoflopt and added:
    Eurgh. Been reading...commentary, can’t bring myself to
  5. lindentea reblogged this from loveoflopt and added:
    see. yeah, that idea is fucked up and full...misogyny and cissexism. ugh.
  6. runehermit reblogged this from lindentea and added:
    ^^^ This. I steer all kinds of clear of Odinism/Asatru because of all the homophobia, racism, and anti-trans* crap. And...
  7. loveoflopt reblogged this from lindentea and added:
    Nooo, his giving birth...it (according to this person). Whcih
  8. stainedsteel said: That’s why I don’t identify as an Asatruar/Odinist. I just say I follow “Norse Paganism”. I just skimmed for the parts that pertain to me, but was like “Why should I do this to myself” and stopped. They’re a bunch of asshats. Ignore them =_= *pats*
  9. anshinwrites said: Argh. THIS is why I do not associate with those terms (well, that and Odin is not one of the people I talk to, so calling myself an Odinist would make no sense). People are assholes. >_<
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